Best 12000k Lights?

NikkitaNinja · September 9th, 2011, 09:23 PM

I have been taking a look at various companies that make 12000k ballasts for the 250 and mainly leaning towards this:

http://fatbikez.com/xetronic-digital...tml?cs_cookies[csid]=d29c34230fbf912916efce4d248ec0b3&cs_cookies[cart_languageC]=EN

Any other companies out there some think may be better? Looking for the best so I'd like to get what I pay for.

Alex · September 10th, 2011, 12:56 AM

/moved to farkles

Mazakawi · September 10th, 2011, 01:56 AM

Purple Headlights aren't going to be very good for night. Not to mention they are illegal.

Just my opinion, but I wouldn't do it. I can understand going to HIDs to get whiter and brighter, but purple is going darker and decreasing visibility.

Dr. Ew · September 10th, 2011, 07:32 AM

Www.ddmtuning.com
Not sure if theyhave 12k but thats where i got mine from. If you do get it... Pictures/vid installed

alex.s · September 10th, 2011, 10:50 AM

go 7k

Momaru · September 10th, 2011, 11:05 AM

FWIW, it's the bulbs that are 12000k, not the ballasts. You can mount just about any color bulb on a given ballast, so if you decide you don't like the color, ya just need new bulbs.

+1 to them not being super for real use as headlights @ night, but to each their own. Hope ya enjoy 'em and post up pics!

setasai · September 10th, 2011, 12:38 PM

You can make them fog lights in addition to HID headlights that are whiter. That'd be rad!

nickadolph · September 10th, 2011, 12:40 PM

for the best quality I would go to theretrofitsource.com

Skippii · September 10th, 2011, 01:16 PM

As said, ballasts are just the inverters and determine the power output--the gas mixture inside the bulb determines the color temp.

NikkitaNinja · September 10th, 2011, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the tips guys, I think ill go with a more blueish tint instead of purple. And what projector should I buy from theretrofitsource?

NikkitaNinja · September 10th, 2011, 07:29 PM

I have been taking a look at the complete kits with projectors bulbs and all and would like to know which of them is suitable for the 250. Looking at getting the 6000k bulb.

greatwhiteninja · September 10th, 2011, 08:54 PM

12k looks bad ass. They will be my next color . As far as compared to 6-8k .. I've seen a set of 12k in person on a newer civic, they were extremely bright and lit the whole parking lot up so my opinion they do just as good a job as the 6k and I've owned quite a few 6&8 k sets in cars. Whatever you go with I wouldn't pay over $50 for a hid set. Just go on ebay , I've always had good luck with just the basic $40-50 eBay kits .

alex.s · September 10th, 2011, 09:17 PM

you're gonna have to make the rest of your bike pink if you get 12ks

nickadolph · September 11th, 2011, 12:36 AM

I would suggest going with this kit. That projector is stupid easy to install. I don't know if you were planning on using a projector or not but if hids are being used you really should, otherwise all oncoming traffic is going to be blinded.

NikkitaNinja · September 11th, 2011, 12:43 AM

Ok but that kit seems to have only one projector..whereas i need a high and low beam setup
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Momaru · September 11th, 2011, 12:56 AM

FYI, I'm fairly sure that projector's too deep to install into the headlight without removing the reflector and using a custom mounting bracket.
TRS does have good bulb/ballast/projector hardware, though I'd also call and ask about their wiring lengths for the relay harness before ordering if you intend to. The H7 harness I got from them was woefully too short to use on the ninjette when I was doing my retrofit. Wound up building my own, for less than they were asking and with all the wires properly crimped, which is more than I can say for theirs.

FWIW, the kit nick linked has a bi-xenon projector, so one bulb can do both high and low beam, with some wiring shenanigans. But it's only one bulb/ballast/projector.

Are you going for a complete retrofit? If so, take a look here. CThunder-Blue figured out how. It's not super hard, but it's a project.

If you just want HID lights in your reflector housing (less effective, but far cheaper) I'd take a look here for the DIY

NikkitaNinja · September 11th, 2011, 10:38 AM

Thanks, but i think for the little time i spend riding at night i will invest the money in a few other various upgrades.
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greatwhiteninja · September 11th, 2011, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

you're gonna have to make the rest of your bike pink if you get 12ks

Momaru · September 11th, 2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NikkitaNinja

Thanks, but i think for the little time i spend riding at night i will invest the money in a few other various upgrades.
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Heh, probably money well spent. Just wanted to give ya both sides of the story if you're committed to doing HIDs.

greatwhiteninja · September 11th, 2011, 04:31 PM

12k on left..

Momaru · September 11th, 2011, 06:07 PM

The color will also depend on the wattage. Higher wattage bulbs (55W) tend to wash out color, while the lower wattage (35W) tend to be a bit richer. My rule of thumb is a 12000k 55W looks like a 35W 10000k bulb.

All that means is just take a look @ the dealer pics for the bulbs you're buying and expect a little variability in the color between your bulbs and the ones from the dealer. Usually, the exact color is NOT covered under warranty/customer satisfaction guarantee, so long as it's in the 'ballpark'.

September 9th, 2011, 09:23 PM	#1
NikkitaNinja ninjette.org guru Name: Tyler Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Nikkita - 2003 Buell XB9R Posts: 274	Best 12000k Lights? I have been taking a look at various companies that make 12000k ballasts for the 250 and mainly leaning towards this: http://fatbikez.com/xetronic-digital...tml?cs_cookies[csid]=d29c34230fbf912916efce4d248ec0b3&cs_cookies[cart_languageC]=EN Any other companies out there some think may be better? Looking for the best so I'd like to get what I pay for.

September 10th, 2011, 12:56 AM	#2
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September 10th, 2011, 10:50 AM	#5
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	go 7k __________________________________________________

September 10th, 2011, 11:05 AM	#6
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	FWIW, it's the bulbs that are 12000k, not the ballasts. You can mount just about any color bulb on a given ballast, so if you decide you don't like the color, ya just need new bulbs. +1 to them not being super for real use as headlights @ night, but to each their own. Hope ya enjoy 'em and post up pics! __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

September 10th, 2011, 01:16 PM	#9
Skippii Milkshake Drinker Name: Skippii Location: Richmond, Va Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Orange DRZ400-S, 2005 Ninja 250 & Custom Thundercunt Dirt Chopper Posts: A lot.	As said, ballasts are just the inverters and determine the power output--the gas mixture inside the bulb determines the color temp. __________________________________________________ "What a sweetheart."- ninja_sleeper to me

September 10th, 2011, 01:56 AM	#3
Mazakawi ninjette.org member Name: Ryan Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 159	Purple Headlights aren't going to be very good for night. Not to mention they are illegal. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't do it. I can understand going to HIDs to get whiter and brighter, but purple is going darker and decreasing visibility.

September 10th, 2011, 07:32 AM	#4
Dr. Ew Yoshi Name: Dr. Ew Location: Visalia, CA Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 11 Ninja 250 Posts: 63	Www.ddmtuning.com Not sure if theyhave 12k but thats where i got mine from. If you do get it... Pictures/vid installed

September 10th, 2011, 12:38 PM	#7
setasai ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Brian Location: Detroit, MI Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Green Posts: A lot.	You can make them fog lights in addition to HID headlights that are whiter. That'd be rad!

September 10th, 2011, 12:40 PM	#8
nickadolph ninjette.org member Name: nick Location: Twin Cities, MN Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 168	for the best quality I would go to theretrofitsource.com

September 10th, 2011, 07:16 PM	#10
NikkitaNinja ninjette.org guru Name: Tyler Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Nikkita - 2003 Buell XB9R Posts: 274	Thanks for the tips guys, I think ill go with a more blueish tint instead of purple. And what projector should I buy from theretrofitsource?

September 10th, 2011, 07:29 PM	#11
NikkitaNinja ninjette.org guru Name: Tyler Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Nikkita - 2003 Buell XB9R Posts: 274	I have been taking a look at the complete kits with projectors bulbs and all and would like to know which of them is suitable for the 250. Looking at getting the 6000k bulb.

September 10th, 2011, 08:54 PM	#12
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	12k looks bad ass. They will be my next color . As far as compared to 6-8k .. I've seen a set of 12k in person on a newer civic, they were extremely bright and lit the whole parking lot up so my opinion they do just as good a job as the 6k and I've owned quite a few 6&8 k sets in cars. Whatever you go with I wouldn't pay over $50 for a hid set. Just go on ebay , I've always had good luck with just the basic $40-50 eBay kits . __________________________________________________ #1

September 10th, 2011, 09:17 PM	#13
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	you're gonna have to make the rest of your bike pink if you get 12ks __________________________________________________

September 11th, 2011, 12:36 AM	#14
nickadolph ninjette.org member Name: nick Location: Twin Cities, MN Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 168	I would suggest going with this kit. That projector is stupid easy to install. I don't know if you were planning on using a projector or not but if hids are being used you really should, otherwise all oncoming traffic is going to be blinded.

September 11th, 2011, 12:43 AM	#15
NikkitaNinja ninjette.org guru Name: Tyler Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Nikkita - 2003 Buell XB9R Posts: 274	Ok but that kit seems to have only one projector..whereas i need a high and low beam setup Posted via Mobile Device

September 11th, 2011, 12:56 AM	#16
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	FYI, I'm fairly sure that projector's too deep to install into the headlight without removing the reflector and using a custom mounting bracket. TRS does have good bulb/ballast/projector hardware, though I'd also call and ask about their wiring lengths for the relay harness before ordering if you intend to. The H7 harness I got from them was woefully too short to use on the ninjette when I was doing my retrofit. Wound up building my own, for less than they were asking and with all the wires properly crimped, which is more than I can say for theirs. FWIW, the kit nick linked has a bi-xenon projector, so one bulb can do both high and low beam, with some wiring shenanigans. But it's only one bulb/ballast/projector. Are you going for a complete retrofit? If so, take a look here. CThunder-Blue figured out how. It's not super hard, but it's a project. If you just want HID lights in your reflector housing (less effective, but far cheaper) I'd take a look here for the DIY __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

September 11th, 2011, 10:38 AM	#17
NikkitaNinja ninjette.org guru Name: Tyler Location: Milwaukee, WI Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Nikkita - 2003 Buell XB9R Posts: 274	Thanks, but i think for the little time i spend riding at night i will invest the money in a few other various upgrades. Posted via Mobile Device

September 11th, 2011, 04:31 PM	#20
greatwhiteninja Ridin Dirty Name: Ed Location: Delaware Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 white se 250r , 2008 zx6R Posts: 921	12k on left.. __________________________________________________ #1

September 11th, 2011, 06:07 PM	#21
Momaru ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: Roanoke, VA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Candy Plasma Blue 250R Posts: A lot.	The color will also depend on the wattage. Higher wattage bulbs (55W) tend to wash out color, while the lower wattage (35W) tend to be a bit richer. My rule of thumb is a 12000k 55W looks like a 35W 10000k bulb. All that means is just take a look @ the dealer pics for the bulbs you're buying and expect a little variability in the color between your bulbs and the ones from the dealer. Usually, the exact color is NOT covered under warranty/customer satisfaction guarantee, so long as it's in the 'ballpark'. __________________________________________________ Proud member of the Blue Army

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