October 29th, 2013, 09:57 PM | #41 |
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I've got roughly 17k on mine. It sounds and feels perfectly fine to my amateur motorcycle mechanic skills.
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May 2nd, 2017, 05:23 AM | #42 | |
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May 2nd, 2017, 08:33 AM | #43 |
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I'm currently at ~27000 miles on my 2011 250R and I'm not gentle with it. Still runs beautifully!
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May 2nd, 2017, 08:45 AM | #44 |
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May 2nd, 2017, 08:56 AM | #45 | |
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May 2nd, 2017, 09:09 AM | #46 |
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What kills most vehicles (and machines of all kinds) isn't use.
It's neglect. Bad things people do: - Park it outside where the weather can get to it. - Stuff it in the back of a shed where critters can get to it. - Ignore basic maintenance, or do a half-a$$ed job. - Fail to winterize/store properly. (fuel, battery) - Fail to keep it clean. - Fail to replace rubber/vinyl parts as they age and oxidize. - FAIL TO USE IT I've never run a bike to truly high mileage, but I routinely do it with cars. The record-holder was a 1989 Honda Civic that I drove to 254,000 miles (on the original clutch!) and sold only because my father passed and left me enough money to buy a new car. My current car (2008 Honda Fit) has 169,000 on it and I fully expect to get at least another 100k out of it, because I do the maintenance and drive it pretty much daily. Anything more than 10 years old, low mileage isn't a plus. It's a warning sign.
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May 2nd, 2017, 12:05 PM | #47 |
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42k on my 2014 300. Only issue has been a bad stator. This includes plenty of off roading in places she wasn't designed to
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May 2nd, 2017, 01:59 PM | #48 |
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That's an old pic. That bike was involved in a hit & run crash and I replaced those fairings with the white & green ones that were on the 2010 Ninjas.
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May 2nd, 2017, 09:41 PM | #49 |
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These bikes will last forever, unless you are @Trailerboy531...
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May 4th, 2017, 03:24 AM | #50 |
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Mine had about 18k when I bought her in February 2013, 33k when I took my dash and fairings off in spring 2015. I'd assume she has around 40k now, maybe a little less, and she runs just as strong as the day I bought her. Not sure if she's ever had a valve adjustment, previous owner may have, but I never have, just oil changes and fluid top ups. No major mechanical issues other than ones I caused by crashing or going down. Something tells me it might be about time to start looking at a new set of clutch disks, but that's more paranoia than anything, as I haven't actually noticed any issue at all. I even do wheelies and have no issue. She doesn't particularly like it if I try and do a burnout, but these bikes aren't exactly known for an ability to light up the rear tire (though fully capable!)
In my experience, many consider ~30k "high mileage" for any bike, which is ridiculous to me. I'm going to see if I can't milk 100k or more out of my girl. I'll ride her until she dies or I die. Presumably the former will come first, and then I'll replace the engine or do a total rebuild and ride her another 100k. I LOVE this bike. |
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May 4th, 2017, 11:07 AM | #51 |
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I got about 63,000 miles on my 2008 ninja 250. Still running well.
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May 4th, 2017, 04:14 PM | #52 |
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All well-made water cooled bikes are good for six-figure mileage.
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September 16th, 2018, 06:37 PM | #53 |
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My 2011 hit 13k today.
Maintenance by the book. 2k OCI’s Replaced groundwire assembly, thermostat, carbs rebuilt(long winter) brake pads and tires. so far. Going to give it to a family member when it hits 30k. |
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September 16th, 2018, 07:46 PM | #54 |
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September 17th, 2018, 06:37 AM | #55 |
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I had an 88 with 138000 miles. The engine was replaced. Then I redid a bunch of stuff and VaFish has it now. Probably still going.
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September 18th, 2018, 06:49 PM | #57 |
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Not really
I got The bike from the original owner after it broke down . I fixed it and was going to ride is befor I sold it.
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September 26th, 2018, 03:47 PM | #58 | |
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September 27th, 2018, 11:23 AM | #59 |
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October 3rd, 2018, 01:08 PM | #60 |
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Newbie but longtime Ninjette rider here. Hey Everyone!
I will hit 69000 mile this week on my 2000 EX250R. Bought it with only 600 on it and has been my regular commuter for over 11 years. Original engine with oil changes every 5000 miles (Shell Rotella). It has been very reliable but not without hiccups - ignition module, 4 sprocket/chains replacements, chain tensioner, speedo cable, throttle/clutch cables and one exhaust valve that is getting tight (not sure what to do about this since the adjustment is now maxed out). I am not sure how many more miles but I am going to keep going... Cheers! Buzzerd |
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October 3rd, 2018, 05:38 PM | #61 |
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October 3rd, 2018, 10:47 PM | #62 | |
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While doing valve adjustments on my '05 EX250 I've looked at the rocker arm assembly and thought about what I might be able to do if one of my valves ever reached the limits of its adjustment. I haven't gotten to this point yet but I've wondered if you could re-grind the "ball end" of the adjustment screw on the rocker arm to take a little off the top of it, preserving the rounded profile while grinding it, then re-polish the new lower profile to original smoothness. When you reinstalled it in the head there would be more clearance adjustment available. Sure would beat removing the entire head to replace the valve. Another thought would be to wonder if you could take a bit of material off the underside of the rocker arm itself, so the adjustment screw could move further upward. |
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October 4th, 2018, 06:33 AM | #63 |
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Path 1. try to gain some adjustment without taking the head off the engine. Path 2. give in and go ahead and remove the head from the engine from the bike for either a quick fix on the single bad valve or to perform a complete refurbishment (most people won't/can't go to this level of effort) So things like shaving the bottom of the rocker arm and/or re-profiling the adjuster ball-end fall into the much easier "don't remove the head" category which puts you back to riding pretty quickly, while things like shaving off a bit of the valve stem end falls into the much more difficult "go ahead and remove the head" category. "Shaving a few thousandths off the end of the valve stem" would require removing the valve from the head, which would mean first removing the head from the engine, which, if you're going to go that far why not just order a new valve from a parts supplier? Your last sentence: Quote:
Most EX250 guys will simply purchase an entire low-miles replacement engine off of Ebay (or similar web sales point). This is because the EX250 is a very high production volume, low-cost, entry-level bike, there exists a great availability of parts from "parted-out" bikes. So treating the EX250 engine as a "disposable" and "remove-and-replace" item often makes more sense than putting in the effort to rebuild. And in your case you might be able to upgrade from a high-miles 2000 year-model engine to a low-miles 2007 engine (this is the path most EX250 guys would take). They say that the quality of the metallurgical work in both the composition of the metal alloys and the casting of EX250 engine structures improved as the years went by, meaning that later year-model engines were much less likely to undergo valve seat recession. |
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October 4th, 2018, 09:25 AM | #67 |
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I really appreciate everyones input.
What makes this valve situation interesting is that the other valves have plenty of adjustment left. As jkv45 suggested, I suspect the seat is becoming recessed into the head. My thought of shaving the end of the valve would be to remove the rocker arm, cover everything and carefully remove material above the keepers with the valve in place. I have no idea if this is actually possible without causing more problems. End the end, an engine swap may be the best way to go rather than just rebuilding the cylinder head. Edit: Looking at some images of the cam rocker assembly it would be difficult but not impossible to do this. I am not in a hurry to remove cams though. To top it off, my wife has suggested getting a newer bike and I am sure we all know how dangerous that is!! |
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October 4th, 2018, 11:21 AM | #69 |
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I have always lusted after the Honda VFR but in reality I have loved the Ninjette as a daily commuter - great gas mileage, easy to work on, parts are (relatively) cheap and available and they are fun to ride without risking triple-digit speeding tickets. The Ninja 300 looks like a nice bike.
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The 5th Generation VFR was definitely the "best of the breed" among the VFR generations, it was the last year to have gear-driven camshafts and the first year to have Honda's PGM-FI system. I like them so much I've got 2 of them: a '99 that I keep here in Denver and an '01 that I keep in Alabama where I spend a lot of time. My '99 has an aftermarket Vance & Hines S4 Stainless exhaust canister on it which really lets you hear the unique V-4 engine sound, the firing order of this engine is wonderfully irregular, 1-0-1-0-0-1-0-1-, and results in a nice burble at idle and a rumbly operating sound throughout the rev-range. Here's what a 5th Gen VFR800 with an aftermarket exhaust canister sounds like (not my bike but a very good video, if you watch the whole video he takes the bike through its paces: highway and surface streets, neighborhood):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcZcY2oJ-nM V-4 engine sound explained:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwEbwKBic6w But with all that said, I still love my '05 EX250 and so does my daughter. She has pretty much taken it over from me and her feeling of ownership is so strong she's even given it a new pet-name that she prefers. |
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October 6th, 2018, 05:14 AM | #71 |
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I have owned two pre-gen Ninja 250s, both purchased under $1k each.
I rode about 10k miles on each of them before selling them at prices right about the amount that I purchased them. The ease of care and price for replacement or repair on pre-gen Ninja 250 is a very valid point. I used to commute on highway 100+ mile one way on the Ninja 250 twice a week, 80+ mph, sustained 11-12k rpm for solid 40-50 miles non-stop. Ninja 250 never miss a beat. Ninja 250 would still be my choice for such mundane commute if I didn't have so much crap to carry along with me, even among my other choices of bikes: Last futzed with by "A"; October 6th, 2018 at 04:12 PM. |
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October 8th, 2018, 07:35 AM | #72 |
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Nice stable, "A"!!
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June 9th, 2019, 03:29 PM | #73 |
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100k Miles on a 2012 Ninja 250!!
https://youtu.be/U58YdYPFN4o
So I hit 100k Miles on my 2012 ninja 250 back in March. This bike is ridden about 300 miles a week on average on the freeway to and from work 70-85mph. Still running pretty good considering. Original motor and clutch. I think I am out of adjustment on the timing chain tensioner. Had to replace the throttle cable due tie it snapping on the freeway at 51k miles. Low beam bulb replaced once. High Beam still original. Oil Changed every 3-5k with Rotella T6 and valves done about every 15-20k by me. Been through probably about 5 chains, 4 front brake pads, 2 front sprockets, 3 rear sprockets I think. Original front rotor, but it does need to be changed with next brake pad change. Original rear pads and rotors but I hardly ever use them. But also, the rear brakes don't work anymore and I think there is a leak where air gets into the system and I have to bleed the air out, but that only works for about a month or 2 before I have to do it again. Probably needs a rebuild. I think I'm on my 3 or 4 front tires and twice the amount for the rear tires. With regular use and maintenance, these bikes will last a long time. But I am gonna pick up a 400 soon and put another 100k on that too! I haven't really been riding much the past few weeks, but my odometer right now says 1613!! Last futzed with by willis9076; June 9th, 2019 at 03:50 PM. Reason: Added more details |
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June 9th, 2019, 06:47 PM | #74 |
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Wow, Henry, that's quite a workhorse you've got!
How many valve-adjustments, actual shim-replacements, have you had to do during those miles? |
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June 9th, 2019, 07:13 PM | #75 |
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I think I did 6 adjustments. The first 1 or 2 times I had to replace shims on both the exhaust and intake. But the later ones it was only on the exhaust sides with an occasional intake shim being replaced.
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Ah, good to know what to expect! Did clearances increase or decrease with mileage?
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Holy moly Henry, that's awesome. I've got about 25,852 miles on my bike, hoping to hit 6 digits some day. Half of that is all city driving.
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