December 7th, 2017, 08:35 PM | #41 |
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105 probably. Hmmm, I'm running a 110. That's a good performing Ninja,
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December 7th, 2017, 08:44 PM | #42 |
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December 11th, 2017, 12:52 PM | #43 |
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Greetings all. I wanted to provide an update to those interested parties regarding the $32 fork brace from Jhina designed to fit the Honda CB300. I did modify it as I outlined in an initial post and installed it. Works a treat. Took a couple of hours. No issues. I will tidy it up a bit once I remove it again when I begin installing the faring kit fro Jhina in a day or so. I noted that the finish on the ninja's fork lowers is shite. Flat black paint on bare metal... Anyway, the final word on this IMHO is: good, inexpensive mod. Easy to achieve with a drill press, a little experience, etc. It is discreet: you really can't see it on my black bike. Pictures tell the story. :-)
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December 11th, 2017, 01:08 PM | #44 |
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Can you tell if there's any improvement, using the wheel between the legs and twist test method?
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December 11th, 2017, 01:29 PM | #45 |
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Please post some datalogs of laptimes before & after? Broken down into section-splits if possible. Would be nice to know where the biggest gains are. I suspect the slowest transitions would benefit most. Such as Sonoma's 9a/9b chicane or T11 @ Thunderhill.
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January 2nd, 2018, 04:12 PM | #46 | |
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January 3rd, 2018, 10:31 AM | #47 | |
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January 3rd, 2018, 02:16 PM | #48 |
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January 4th, 2018, 11:18 AM | #49 |
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You seem to present yourself as very knowledgable and experienced: why would you be asking me what a fork brace does for handling? Please read an earlier post of mine after fitment to get a sense of my experience, observation and opinion. In a few words brother: It feels really good. Stiffer. Corners better on the roads I ride which are sadly a bit bumpy and out of shape. Take it easy. ;-)
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January 4th, 2018, 12:17 PM | #50 |
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Randy,
A defensive posture is not necessary in this group. On this board there is a large representation of 250/300 racers from across the country. Many with years of experience under their expert plates. None of the racers commenting have seen fit to perform this mod to the 250/300 chassis. Good suspension will go along way farther to improve the handeling of these bikes. Congrats on a successful DIY mod, just keep in mind it isn’t for everyone. |
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January 4th, 2018, 01:44 PM | #52 |
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January 4th, 2018, 02:01 PM | #53 | |
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January 4th, 2018, 02:45 PM | #54 | |
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Believe it or not, one way that suspension works while leaned over is through flexing to provide bump compliance. This is because the sliders don't move as well when hitting a bump while leaned over and on the edge of the tire. Some flexibility in the forks also provides good feedback or "feel". A fork can be too rigid and can give you the uncomfortable feeling that you are on the razor's edge but not really able to tell for sure what is going on with the front. So in that respect the "flexiness" of the Ninjette front end is not all bad because it has pretty good feel. If you want to improve the performance of the front end on the 250/300 Ninja, the best place to start IMHO is correct springs for your weight, cartridge emulators and the correct oil. I did this on my racebike and I haven't had to touch a thing on the front end for two straight seasons. Last futzed with by tgold; January 4th, 2018 at 04:31 PM. Reason: Clarify |
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January 5th, 2018, 07:41 AM | #55 | |
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It made the front feel more vague at the limit and chatter where it didn't before. We took it off. That's one reason I questioned another member that was installing late-model inverted forks on the Ninja 250. The entire suspension and frame design on these bikes are not that rigid, and all flex together. Making one area more rigid can adversely affect the overall feel of the entire unit. |
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January 8th, 2018, 10:14 AM | #56 |
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Thank you all so much for sharing all your accumulated knowledge and for caring so deeply as to take the time to write thoughtful responses with suggestions and ideas. I am swayed most definitely by the community to remove the fork brace and consider other proven mods to the front suspension. Thank you again. Unfortunately the bike was ruined (totaled) by a large SUV in the local market parking lot (driver did not see the black bike).
The fork brace did nothing to limit damage. :-) I have not seen the bike since I left it with the shop 12/21/17, but I did purchase a white non ABS Ninja 300. |
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January 8th, 2018, 10:33 AM | #57 | |
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Just me I guess. Also, if I have to park where the cars do, I park with my tail light in line with the autos tail lights so people don't think there's an empty spot and pull in and bash my bike. I think you're gonna like the 300. For every door that closes another opens. Bill
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January 8th, 2018, 10:57 AM | #58 |
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Sorry to hear about your mishap! The iodiocy of SUV drivers never cease to amaze me! I saved these photos from this thread: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/off-topi...s-glory-146846
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January 8th, 2018, 12:06 PM | #60 |
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That's a bummer about your bike but I hope you enjoy the new one. I always make sure to park so I'm visible, too. Tail lights in line with the cars, owning the whole space, that kind of thing.
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Yes, sorry Randy, but glad you got a new one.
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February 7th, 2018, 05:02 PM | #64 |
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Thank you so much Sir. I got a great settlement from the insurance company, and I honestly prefer the non-abs and the white color. I love this bike and can't stay off. Cheers!
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