June 1st, 2020, 12:05 PM | #1 |
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Kneedraggers! When and where was your first time?!
Alright, we all remember our FIRST TIME. When and where did you drag your knee for the first time?
I'll go first. 2001 during my WMRC (Washington Motorcycle Racing Association) new racer orientation program. It wasn't on an actual track but an airport runway? (a long time ago, lol) set up with cones and a makeshift track and I was railing around with no idea what I was actually doing, but doing it quickly and accidentally dragged my knee! Scared the crap out of me but been doing it consistently since Feel free to add what you believe are the key components required to successfully drag a knee. Is it body position only or are there skills/techniques that can help.
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June 1st, 2020, 03:35 PM | #2 |
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I resent that remark, I DO NOT drag my knuckles.... wait.. it's about knee-dragging!
First time was afternoon session with NRS in turn-7 @ Sears Point Sonoma. Long sweeper let me gradually increase lean-angle without going too far too fast. Without even realizing it, I rubbed knee-puck on ground!!! Kinda scary and very exhilarating!!! As I've gotten faster, I hardly stick my knee out at all (immediately lose 5mph on Ninjette!). I use it like whiskers, and stick out tiny bit after corner-entry to gauge my max lean-angle, then put it back in. |
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June 2nd, 2020, 04:54 AM | #3 |
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I was at the Kart track at VIR on my DT100 converted to mini-roadracer. I figured it would happen, but as you said, it was a bit startling when it did. I believe this was the very day:
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June 3rd, 2020, 05:57 PM | #4 |
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My first time was 5-6 years ago on my R1...felt good went home happy.
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July 24th, 2020, 10:54 AM | #6 |
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cool stories, I love hearing about when people got their knee down the first time!
So, some people (not in this exact thread) have comented that they end up scraping peg before knee....what are the main reasons why this would happen, and what do you think the remedy for it would be?
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July 25th, 2020, 10:39 AM | #7 |
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First time I dragged knee (at least without quickly following it up with the rest of my body) was at a kart track on a supermoto 12 years ago.
Now the funny thing is, once you drag knee on a supermoto with a 38" seat height or so, on any other bike the knee seems to make contact pretty quickly. When I built up my 300 race bike, the first lap out on it my thought was damn I'm dragging knee already. And now these days I'm riding a Z125 Pro at the kart track. Feels like I could put my knees down instead of my feet when I come to a stop on that thing, hahah. Well not quite but you get my point.
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August 25th, 2020, 08:11 AM | #8 |
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Another fun knee dragging story. I was riding Sachsenring in Germany with Leod Escapes Tours during a track day and there was a vendor selling wooden knee pucks which all the local riders were buying. I thought they looked pretty sweet so I bought a cool green pair to match my leathers. After I put them on I was dragging my knee around one of the corners and I was like, "I smell campfire, I smell smoke, what's going on?!" And then I realized it was the smell of my wooden pucks dragging on the track. Ha! Such a cool sensation, multiple senses, all enjoying knee dragging!
Fun track too!
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August 25th, 2020, 09:25 AM | #9 |
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Probably about 1987 or so, Blackhawk Farms, turn 5, EX500.
Put a hole in my leathers. No knee pucks on my leathers back then. |
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August 25th, 2020, 12:10 PM | #11 |
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The last time I dragged my knees was last week on the Dragon. It's always a fun sensation to drag a knee on those hairpin turns. You don't need to be going very fast.
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August 26th, 2020, 07:43 PM | #12 |
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First time was on this baby Yamaha dirt bike with slicks on it at the skid pad of VIR in May of 2019; but then I did it again in the big carousel turn at Barber later that month.
This year I started touching on a more regular basis and I think I’ve touched in nearly every turn at the ridge, but especially 8, 12, 13, and 15.
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Being crossed up or other body positioning errors Foot position making opening the leg awkward Road camber changes, especially if it alters in the region of the tires/pegs/knee
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September 12th, 2020, 07:02 PM | #14 |
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The 1st I dragged knee was on the track at Monticello NY back in 2010 on my 2007 GSXR 750. It was a left turn and it scarred the crap out of me and I ran off because of it!!! I didn’t crash, I came back thru that corner and did it again. It’s a weird feeling at first, but you get used to it.
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September 14th, 2020, 01:07 PM | #15 |
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All of the above for sure. What about the steering rate? Does it make a difference in whether or not someone gets their knee down if they are steering the bike slowly vs quickly? (I know you know the answer )
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September 15th, 2020, 06:56 PM | #16 |
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I dragged toe when first started track riding as well. My problem was foot placement. I wasn’t putting the ball of my inside foot on the peg while cornering. Once I started doing that it wasn’t an issue anymore.
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September 17th, 2020, 09:12 AM | #17 |
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2019 at MMRT (India) on my Ninja300!
It was my 3rd time at a track riding school. Got my body position right bit by bit under the guidance of the instructors. Decided to go for it at C3 which was my most comfortable corner. Exaggerated my BP a lot than usual and did it on my 3rd lap! Next session they taught how to do pivot steering and before I realised I got my knee down on my least comfortable corner as well! |
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